Comments for Doc Bob's Blog http://www.docbob.org/wordpress Information for and about Jehovah's Witnesses Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:44:09 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 Comment on Has the Watchtower Society Ever Lied? by Gabriel http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/has-the-watchtower-society-ever-lied#comment-7954 Gabriel Thu, 29 Dec 2011 16:44:09 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=545#comment-7954 Roper, your argument has no validity or substance. the fact that those things were written so many years ago, doesnt change the fact that they were indeed written. Watchtower always finds subtle ways dismiss what they have taught in the past and then LIE about it. even though i wasnt alive anywhere near the 1975 fiasco, it has always intrigued me since you read it in the newspaper and see it on TV each time theyre talking about modern day false prophecies. When i asked my parents about it,who where around by the time, theyd just rubbed it of like Rebecca said, "it was the fault of the witnesses who believed what they wanted to believe". Of course that doesnt make anysense, since why would millions believe something that was never taught? Doing some research on the Watchtower CD ROM (2010), even though the old books cant be found (for obvious reasons) you can still find old Watchtowers that did in fact point to 1975 as the beginning of Christ's Thousand year Reign; and then in newer magazines completely shrug it off and make the rank and file seem like the guilty ones for believing it. The fact is that the WTBTS has done this in the past, does it now, and will still do it in the future. Roper, your argument has no validity or substance. the fact that those things were written so many years ago, doesnt change the fact that they were indeed written. Watchtower always finds subtle ways dismiss what they have taught in the past and then LIE about it. even though i wasnt alive anywhere near the 1975 fiasco, it has always intrigued me since you read it in the newspaper and see it on TV each time theyre talking about modern day false prophecies. When i asked my parents about it,who where around by the time, theyd just rubbed it of like Rebecca said, “it was the fault of the witnesses who believed what they wanted to believe”. Of course that doesnt make anysense, since why would millions believe something that was never taught? Doing some research on the Watchtower CD ROM (2010), even though the old books cant be found (for obvious reasons) you can still find old Watchtowers that did in fact point to 1975 as the beginning of Christ’s Thousand year Reign; and then in newer magazines completely shrug it off and make the rank and file seem like the guilty ones for believing it. The fact is that the WTBTS has done this in the past, does it now, and will still do it in the future.

]]> Comment on Welcome by BritoCappa http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/#comment-7505 BritoCappa Tue, 27 Dec 2011 03:00:09 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?page_id=2#comment-7505 There is still much to do to get rid of blindness is not the simple Fact get rid of the "Tower" is that we are walking in the light. There is still much to do to get rid of blindness is not the simple
Fact get rid of the “Tower” is that we are walking in the light.

]]> Comment on Letter 1 by Gwilym http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/letter-1#comment-7478 Gwilym Mon, 26 Dec 2011 20:34:53 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=15#comment-7478 My dear brother A great letter full of the love of God. Gwilym Williams My dear brother
A great letter full of the love of God.
Gwilym Williams

]]> Comment on Welcome by Gwilym http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/#comment-7472 Gwilym Mon, 26 Dec 2011 19:23:02 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?page_id=2#comment-7472 Hi Bob Enjoyed your testimony,not heard of any coming out on Anglesey Wales but praying for that to happen. Gwilym Deacon Elim Hi Bob
Enjoyed your testimony,not heard of any coming out on Anglesey Wales but praying for that to happen.
Gwilym
Deacon Elim

]]> Comment on Jehovah’s Witnesses & Clergy – Part 4 by Anthony Mathenia http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/jehovahs-witnesses-clergy-part-4#comment-5269 Anthony Mathenia Thu, 08 Dec 2011 16:49:18 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=271#comment-5269 I believe it is incorrect when Jehovah's Witnesses claim that they have no paid ministers. While it true that no one is receiving a paycheck, the International leadership of the religion live very well on the donations of individual witnesses. While you don't particular mention it, the Watchtower likes to slam the lavish churches that enjoyed by some religions while ignoring their own vast land holdings. Their Brookly properties are being sold for billions and converted into luxury condos. I believe it is incorrect when Jehovah’s Witnesses claim that they have no paid ministers. While it true that no one is receiving a paycheck, the International leadership of the religion live very well on the donations of individual witnesses.

While you don’t particular mention it, the Watchtower likes to slam the lavish churches that enjoyed by some religions while ignoring their own vast land holdings. Their Brookly properties are being sold for billions and converted into luxury condos.

]]> Comment on Watchtower Application for Holocaust Funds by justme http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/watchtower-application-for-holocaust-funds#comment-5062 justme Mon, 05 Dec 2011 18:39:09 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=87#comment-5062 I hope someone sent a copyof the WTS declaration and letter behind the application Following is an English translation of the 1933 Letter to Hitler. "Dear Reichskanzler, The Brooklyn headquarter of the Watchtower Society is pro German in an exemplary way and has been so for many years. For that reason, in 1918, the president of the Society and seven members of the board of directors were sentenced to 80 years in prison, because the president refused to use two of the magazines published in America under his direction for war propaganda against Germany. These two magazines, "The Watchtower" and "Bible Student" were the only magazines in America which refused to engage in anti-German propaganda and for that reason were prohibited and suppressed in America during the war. In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and Catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and its board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to repudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews. The conference of five thousand delegates also noted - as is expressed in the declaration - that the Bible Researchers of Germany are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed respecting the relationship of humans to God, namely: honesty of the created being towards its creator. The conference came to the conclusion that there are no contradictions when it comes to the relationship between the Bible Researchers of Germany to the national government of the German Reich. To the contrary, referring to the purely religious and unpolitical goals and efforts of the Bible Researchers, it can be said that these are in full agreement with the identical goals of the national government of the German Reich. We are looking forward to your kind approval, which we hope to receive soon, and want to assure our highest respect to you, honorable Mr. Reichskanzler. Yours faithfully, Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Magdeburg" I hope someone sent a copyof the WTS declaration and letter behind the application

Following is an English translation of the 1933 Letter to Hitler.

“Dear Reichskanzler,

The Brooklyn headquarter of the Watchtower Society is pro German in an exemplary way and has been so for many years. For that reason, in 1918, the president of the Society and seven members of the board of directors were sentenced to 80 years in prison, because the president refused to use two of the magazines published in America under his direction for war propaganda against Germany. These two magazines, “The Watchtower” and “Bible Student” were the only magazines in America which refused to engage in anti-German propaganda and for that reason were prohibited and suppressed in America during the war.

In the very same manner, in course of the recent months the board of directors of our Society not only refused to engage in propaganda against Germany, but has even taken a position against it. The enclosed declaration underlines this fact and emphasizes that the people leading in such propaganda (Jewish businessmen and Catholics) also are the most rigorous persecutors of the work of our Society and its board of directors. This and other statements of the declaration are meant to repudiate the slanderous accusation, that Bible Researchers are supported by the Jews.

The conference of five thousand delegates also noted – as is expressed in the declaration – that the Bible Researchers of Germany are fighting for the very same high ethical goals and ideals which also the national government of the German Reich proclaimed respecting the relationship of humans to God, namely: honesty of the created being towards its creator.

The conference came to the conclusion that there are no contradictions when it comes to the relationship between the Bible Researchers of Germany to the national government of the German Reich. To the contrary, referring to the purely religious and unpolitical goals and efforts of the Bible Researchers, it can be said that these are in full agreement with the identical goals of the national government of the German Reich.

We are looking forward to your kind approval, which we hope to receive soon, and want to assure our highest respect to you, honorable Mr. Reichskanzler.

Yours faithfully,
Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society Magdeburg”

]]> Comment on It Hurts by Eric C Ramos http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/it-hurts#comment-4740 Eric C Ramos Tue, 29 Nov 2011 17:39:37 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=822#comment-4740 Thank you for that healing poem. Recovery from the borg is both individual and painful process. This poem is one step in healing and recovery and I am grateful to receive this from you. Thank you so much. Signed Eric Thank you for that healing poem. Recovery from the borg is both individual and painful process. This poem is one step in healing and recovery and I am grateful to receive this from you. Thank you so much. Signed Eric

]]> Comment on Avoid Independent Thinking! by brian mcguire http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/avoid-independent-thinking#comment-4257 brian mcguire Sun, 20 Nov 2011 06:20:16 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?p=478#comment-4257 are you people serious? stifilng indepenant thinking? what a joke. you're allowed to exist and do what you do because people put up with your independant thinking. there's no place, at least in America, for thought processes like yours are you people serious? stifilng indepenant thinking? what a joke. you’re allowed to exist and do what you do because people put up with your independant thinking. there’s no place, at least in America, for thought processes like yours

]]> Comment on About This Site by Doc Bob http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/about-this-site#comment-3723 Doc Bob Thu, 03 Nov 2011 11:03:26 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?page_id=142#comment-3723 Thank you. I have not been either disfellowshipped, nor disassociated that I know of. After I wrote Letter 1 (you can read it in the Letters category), I was called by two of the elders. When I told them that I was not formally disassociating myself, they said they wanted to meet with me to face charges of apostasy. Letter 2 was my reply. I heard back from them. A friend who left several years later told me that no announcement was made, but a talk was given about me, without mentioning me by name. Thank you. I have not been either disfellowshipped, nor disassociated that I know of. After I wrote Letter 1 (you can read it in the Letters category), I was called by two of the elders. When I told them that I was not formally disassociating myself, they said they wanted to meet with me to face charges of apostasy. Letter 2 was my reply. I heard back from them. A friend who left several years later told me that no announcement was made, but a talk was given about me, without mentioning me by name.

]]> Comment on About This Site by Randall http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/about-this-site#comment-3701 Randall Tue, 01 Nov 2011 15:47:11 +0000 http://www.docbob.org/wordpress/?page_id=142#comment-3701 Nice website. If I can ask were you ever DFed or disassociated. Nice website. If I can ask were you ever DFed or disassociated.

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